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>>12
>open ended sandbox 
I commend your optimism but I don't think that'll work out very well. As we've seen with Lifeweb and to a lesser extent with /vg/ itself, people don't really like the social part of the social sandbox that is SS13. It's used as a vehicle for comedy at best and only as a way to spew the same dated memes (e.g. Sterlok and all the people with the same-ish gimmick) at worst. 
Which is, I guess it's fine, honestly. I'm just sort of tired of more of the same, and longing for the times when the game could provide a whole range of emotions, when improv wasn't the end-all be-all. I think I already see /vg/ as this open-ended sandbox, but most people just don't want to explore the possibilities of that, or are too burnt-out after playing for >10 years to really care. 

>where things can develop more chaotically and spiral out of control more readily
In my experience, "chaos" has become sort of a buzzword. New servers pride themselves on being more chaotic than the last ones but never really question why they want that. To promote emergent gameplay? To introduce more fun interactions? To stay true to traditions of times long gone? I don't think that just making the game more chaotic accomplishes any of that. I guess it does bring a little more action, though. But you have to be careful not to go overboard with that stuff.
Beside

>>14
>and longing for the times when the game could provide a whole range of emotions
This is what I'd like to see fstation facilitate too. More open ended instead of trying just to get jecties and reroll antag again. A deep level of roleplaying is something that would be nice. How to encourage it code wise is one matter (reduce gamey/arcade-mode features), but the other matter is also encouraging it among the playerbase too. If people feel rage or attraction or sadness in the game, then I think that's the right path for us.
You might be right about avoiding chaos for the sake of chaos. I do like the idea of the station being a death trap where you have to keep your wits about you though.
I guess I want to reduce noisy/gunk style random events so the station feels more chill and like it could keep running without issues under normal conditions, but also reduce safety padding so that once things get dangerous, you really have to be careful and there's not that much room for forgiveness.

>>42
This is an overwhelmingly excellent reply, honestly. A little hard to come up with a response to something this concise and on-point, but I'll try. 

>the other matter is also encouraging it among the playerbase too
Right now I see two factors that could stand in the way of that, with the first being the state of /vg/ (since that's where the server mainly gets its audience from), and the second being (at least partly) me. I'll elaborate on that in a bit. 

The first one is, I think, glaringly obvious: /vg/ just doesn't endorse or sometimes even enforce roleplay at all, and often it feels like the server does quite the opposite. Any character idea that isn't a throwaway gag or a silly little gimmick gets either completely disregarded or outright ridiculed [to be fair, the latter was more of a concern when thread was actually alive and people were discussing the game on there]. There definitely are exceptions to this, though. Still, not a great starting point. Then you have to take into account that people who will want to migrate will generally dislike something about the state that /vg/ is currently in. That's mostly banned people and other faux revolutionaries. It's nigh impossible to make someone leave the server they like already, no matter how much you promise, especially if you underdeliver on that. 
I don't think there's a solution to this issue right now, not one that keeps the imageboard audience focus. I'll consider maybe talking to people I know from some other boards to see if they'd be interested in something like that, but not only is that not a permanent solution, it's one that's highly likely to fail. 

As to the second one... You have probably noticed by now that I'm an ESL. No two ways about it, and I'm the worst kind of, since I'm also Russian - which is why I'm this verbose... I'm a refugee, yes; my first codebase was /vg/ when it was hosted on the long gone Soviet Station, which is why I'm so nostalgic about it (and also the fact that it's the only one that hasn't made the game entirely unplayable yet), but more relevant to the topic is the fact that even if I'm (barely) able to hold a basic conversation on an imageboard, I completely fold when presented with a complex developing situation, and the only response I can give is to just stand there and bat my eyes like an idiot. So, I myself am just not fit for the kind of space I proselytise. This wouldn't be noticeable at all if the server had more people, really - right now every player counts and has to do something to make the rounds more memorable, though. 

>I do like the idea of the station being a death trap where you have to keep your wits about you though.
Hard agree on this one. I really didn't understand the point of removing shelters until I saw the effects of that in action. I still think there's some utility to keeping them in, because having a plasma flood be a guaranteed way to instantly depop an entire server is fun maybe once or twice at most and gets stale after that, but we don't have people actually antagonising the station right now anyway so who cares.

>I guess I want to reduce noisy/gunk style random events 

>>45
are you violentfire?

>>254
I don't know who that is.

is it kino?

>>75 (OP) 
Maybe make it a toggleable settings option?

>>110
On a per-pkayer preferences basis? Right now it's configurable but applies to everyone or noone.

>>113
Yeah, like that, as an opt-out system.

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Vol 10 bros, we are back
VGgers will never know the joys of jammin' it up to sloppies
https://litter.catbox.moe/vcjwg5.zip

>>92
Very nice. Downloaded and will listen in a bit.

>>92
Here's vol10!
https://files.catbox.moe/if41ky.zip

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New iCarly kino.

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new hardcore kino

Do it.

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Why is she so trundere?

>>82
She's a 'ficionado at heart.

She's preparing to hop in.

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Any day now

Look at it this way. All VGgers are on discord and there are 3-4 of them who pretend to be 4chan users, so they can sit and LARP in /vm/. One of them applied for /vg/ janny and didn't get accepted so he applied for /vm/ janny.
They have full control of /vm/ while they still seethe about /vg/ and now they have to deal with a guy who constantly spams another server. All of them gone to one of the slowest moving boards on 4chan.
You can just forget about the /vm/ thread and make /vg/ threads and there is nothing the /vm/ janny can do about it. Soon enough these people will be losing their mind that someone is shilling kiwifarms in their /vm/ thread

>>100
I guess the kiwitroon is doing the work of the 'ficionados in a roundabout way hm.

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Sloppie regarding the tactic you implicated earlier I got it loud and clear, no need to explicate it here if we dont wanna reveal our hand.

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Some really kino tracks on this album. Very well done!

This image is sick too

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Archive with individual songs:
https://files.catbox.moe/7pv44i.zip
attaching my favorite song on the album

>>54
One of the sickedt songs of all the albums.

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lol

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They banned about 20 ISP ranges for me. Easy to evade but I feel bad about my bros getting range banned. Before posting I've seen dozens of warnings from posts I've not made of other people using my IP calling people niggers, complaining about the chinese, calling out jews etc.
Our boys need to post too

>>97
Theybhate freedom. They even said I was ban evading when I wasn't. Just an excuse for censorship. They unironically can't handle people with a freedom loving ethos, and need everything to be tightly controlled. I think it may be time to gather more 'ficionados from places like 8chan where they value freedom more.

>>60
You're on to something. I want to be constructive while also being destructive to discordism. But yes you seem to be right. When unsure, follow the path of freedom, freshness, and fun.

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I'm sure you lads have gotten your fill of veegee griefing but I think it's worth saying anyways, as someone who has done most of their playing on that server (as well as some code and asset contributions), upwards of a thousand, I never counted. I've felt the tug of SS13 at the back of my mind, yet even veegee is a place I'm sick of, I won't even start on the rest of the servers, fuck that noise.

Discord absolutely ruins communities, this I agree with wholeheartedly. However, a community cannot hope to organize or further build on imageboards alone, whether it be by building the codebase, discussing bans or features, or just shooting the shit and discussing the game. SS13 is in an extremely unique position both in how it is hosted, how it is moderated, and how it is developed, and when I see
>0 players online
I can't help but feel this entire game is collapsing under the esoteric development process and the hordes of teegeeveegee trannies that treat it as their personal Girl Pretender Club. Long gone are the days you had to worry about someone who was too good at the game, now it's people who ultimately loiter in the space and really don't provide anything interesting or fun, certainly not because there's a lack of things to do with the game either. Trannies will sit around pretending to be a rat woman with a horse penis or something and get mad when you say it's not really your thing.

I HATE how the HRT menace has come to dominate a

>>73
I understood all this 10+ years ago and did anything I could to warn people and fight back against the tranny menace.
Because people ignored it or were supportive it has grown so out of control it just fucks everything up. People have to actively fight back against this at all times if there is any chance of getting anything good ever again.
These are evil people if they're even people and it can't be ignored. If there is any hope of a 4chan SS13 server these people have to be pulled out like weeds. Every VGtranny needs to fuck off. Then we can have a server.

>>55 (OP) 
more like how do "we" get players at all lmao get rekt 0players 4head

NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS SUCK MY DICK NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERS SUCK MY DICK AHHHH POSTING IN AN EPIC THREAD

Big f win

also don't mention this site on 4chan as there are wordfilter bans for

>>35
We can always enable them to start and then gradually add features as long as there aren't any major bugs.

>>35
What color blood should they have? I was thinking blue since they're like molluscs, so the same blood color as vox, but on the other hand if you have an idea, depending on your skrell lore, for an another color let me know

>>37
they do have blue blood on most other servers, and /vg/ basically doesn't have lore for them anyway - i think blue is fine
i'm working on implementing a few things for them myself rn, but i am outstandingly bad at spriting so help on that front would be appreciated when i'm finally done with the merge request

>>38
Oh very nice. For me spriting always takes so much mental energy as I worry about every exact pixel. I can do some meat recoloring and stuff though if need be.

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Skrell are playable!
https://gitgud.io/Hinaichigo/fstation13/-/merge_requests/67